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Kk? Sex? Quality? Strain?, fIRST FH & ITS A FRY

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adrianeandconnor... adrianeandconnorwest View Member Profile	Mar 10 2010, 10:45 AM Post #1
MiniKok Group: Full Member Posts: 172 Joined: 4-March 10 From: citrus heights, California Member No.: 13,241	sELLER STATED THIS FRY WAS A MALE KK! I'VE HAD HIM 3 DAYS. HE'S 2 INCH SHOULD HE HAVE HIS HUMP BY NOW? WHAT IS HIS STRAIN, SEX, AND WHAT SHOULD I MATE HIM WITH TO MAKE PREETY, GOOD QUALITY FRY? I'D LIKE TO GET HIM A MATE! I BOUGHT CHINGMIX SP100 HEAD BOOSTER AND GRAND SUMO GROWTH ENHANCERS ONLINE SHOULD BE HERE ANY DAY AS OF NOW HE ONLY EATS BLOOD WORMS. I'D APPRECIATE ALL THE COMMENTS I CAN GET. THANKS GUYS AND GALLS Attached image(s)

djrice69 View Member Profile	Mar 10 2010, 10:49 AM Post #2
Rice King Group: Senior Moderator Posts: 7,415 Joined: 26-April 05 From: orange county Member No.: 2,081	looks like a KK he doesn't have the black flower marking near his head. Some will have this marking but usually they will have more kamfa traits. Nice looking fry lots of pearl potential. Btw welcome to FHUSA!! -------------------- Shipping service is now available for residents in socal www.Djrice.Net I sell custom dividers/suction cup for your flowerhorns need! BETTER YOURSELF, WITH KNOWLEDGE IN THE FISH AND AQUARIUM WORLD Click here

AnthonyV View Member Profile	Mar 10 2010, 10:59 AM Post #3
Semper Fi Group: Forum Moderators Posts: 6,456 Joined: 6-May 08 From: LOS ANGELES Member No.: 10,715	It doesn't look like a KK, looks like a ZZ. At 2 inches it's still very small for kok growth and definitely way to small to breed. I can't tell the sex because of it's small size but I would guess male. It's very nice for your first flowerhorn, congratulations and welcome to the hobby! Anthony --------------------

djrice69 View Member Profile	Mar 10 2010, 11:06 AM Post #4
Rice King Group: Senior Moderator Posts: 7,415 Joined: 26-April 05 From: orange county Member No.: 2,081	Anthony look no flower marking on head -------------------- Shipping service is now available for residents in socal www.Djrice.Net I sell custom dividers/suction cup for your flowerhorns need! BETTER YOURSELF, WITH KNOWLEDGE IN THE FISH AND AQUARIUM WORLD Click here

AnthonyV View Member Profile	Mar 10 2010, 11:06 AM Post #5
Semper Fi Group: Forum Moderators Posts: 6,456 Joined: 6-May 08 From: LOS ANGELES Member No.: 10,715	Oh yeah, welcome to FHUSA! I kinda agree with David about the marking but the reason it looks ZZ to me is because it's body shape, deep red eyes and tail fin. More clear pictures would help. --------------------

djrice69 View Member Profile	Mar 10 2010, 11:11 AM Post #6
Rice King Group: Senior Moderator Posts: 7,415 Joined: 26-April 05 From: orange county Member No.: 2,081	a lot of the kk seem to have red eyes and look a lot like zz when little. Just need some time to grow out here is what I was refering too -------------------- Shipping service is now available for residents in socal www.Djrice.Net I sell custom dividers/suction cup for your flowerhorns need! BETTER YOURSELF, WITH KNOWLEDGE IN THE FISH AND AQUARIUM WORLD Click here

adrianeandconnor... adrianeandconnorwest View Member Profile	Mar 10 2010, 11:24 AM Post #7
MiniKok Group: Full Member Posts: 172 Joined: 4-March 10 From: citrus heights, California Member No.: 13,241	QUOTE (djrice69 @ Mar 10 2010, 11:11 AM) a lot of the kk seem to have red eyes and look a lot like zz when little. Just need some time to grow out here is what I was refering too oh ok this seems to make sense i appreciate your guys input im kind lost as to all this but im excited bout the hobbie and im already addicted ive been doing tons of reading but because the seller couldn't produce what this little guys parents looked like i was beginning to wonder if i got what i paid for...we was only 40 bucks didn't know if i got ripped of or if i got a good deal lol

adrianeandconnor... adrianeandconnorwest View Member Profile	Mar 10 2010, 11:28 AM Post #8
MiniKok Group: Full Member Posts: 172 Joined: 4-March 10 From: citrus heights, California Member No.: 13,241	Is it possible father was kk and mother was zz? I'm clueless as to how the whole breeding process is with the parents and mixes!

djrice69 View Member Profile	Mar 10 2010, 11:36 AM Post #9
Rice King Group: Senior Moderator Posts: 7,415 Joined: 26-April 05 From: orange county Member No.: 2,081	Don't worry about what it is called as long as you enjoy it, but if you really must know. King kamfa has the blood of the King Bacara, thats were the armor plating comes from. I think if its crossed with a very pearly SRT, or kamfamalau then you might get the beginning formula, from then on you will have to do selective breeding for desired traits. King Kamfa has one major flaw in its tail, it not consistent in all the pcs to have a kamfa wrapped tail. Many KK tails do not come wrap tail. some are even dropped and not strong. QUOTE (adrianeandconnorwest @ Mar 10 2010, 11:28 AM) Is it possible father was kk and mother was zz? I'm clueless as to how the whole breeding process is with the parents and mixes! -------------------- Shipping service is now available for residents in socal www.Djrice.Net I sell custom dividers/suction cup for your flowerhorns need! BETTER YOURSELF, WITH KNOWLEDGE IN THE FISH AND AQUARIUM WORLD Click here

adrianeandconnor... adrianeandconnorwest View Member Profile	Mar 10 2010, 11:42 AM Post #10
MiniKok Group: Full Member Posts: 172 Joined: 4-March 10 From: citrus heights, California Member No.: 13,241	i get half of what your saying because of stuff ive been reading when you say srt and wrapped tail what do those mean...lol i really need some help lol

adrianeandconnor... adrianeandconnorwest View Member Profile	Mar 10 2010, 11:43 AM Post #11
MiniKok Group: Full Member Posts: 172 Joined: 4-March 10 From: citrus heights, California Member No.: 13,241	great pics above by the way very preety

djrice69 View Member Profile	Mar 10 2010, 11:47 AM Post #12
Rice King Group: Senior Moderator Posts: 7,415 Joined: 26-April 05 From: orange county Member No.: 2,081	SRT = Super Red Texas << is a type of strain that might have been used for the pearls in breeding because its more of a stable strain due to recrossing of the same strain to get srt colors Wrapped tail is the tail that is fanned out and straight looking when fully opened. QUOTE (adrianeandconnorwest @ Mar 10 2010, 11:42 AM) i get half of what your saying because of stuff ive been reading when you say srt and wrapped tail what do those mean...lol i really need some help lol -------------------- Shipping service is now available for residents in socal www.Djrice.Net I sell custom dividers/suction cup for your flowerhorns need! BETTER YOURSELF, WITH KNOWLEDGE IN THE FISH AND AQUARIUM WORLD Click here

adrianeandconnor... adrianeandconnorwest View Member Profile	Mar 10 2010, 11:51 AM Post #13
MiniKok Group: Full Member Posts: 172 Joined: 4-March 10 From: citrus heights, California Member No.: 13,241	oh i gotcha lol

AnthonyV View Member Profile	Mar 10 2010, 11:53 AM Post #14
Semper Fi Group: Forum Moderators Posts: 6,456 Joined: 6-May 08 From: LOS ANGELES Member No.: 10,715	Yeah, I agree with you David. At only 2 inches it's still a bit early to clearly classify and be 100% certain. Pump him/her up, keep water nice and warm and give it plenty of space to live in (60gl or bigger). --------------------

djrice69 View Member Profile	Mar 10 2010, 11:54 AM Post #15
Rice King Group: Senior Moderator Posts: 7,415 Joined: 26-April 05 From: orange county Member No.: 2,081	Yup it could even be a GM fry never know at that size 0_o -------------------- Shipping service is now available for residents in socal www.Djrice.Net I sell custom dividers/suction cup for your flowerhorns need! BETTER YOURSELF, WITH KNOWLEDGE IN THE FISH AND AQUARIUM WORLD Click here

adrianeandconnor... adrianeandconnorwest View Member Profile	Mar 10 2010, 12:08 PM Post #16
MiniKok Group: Full Member Posts: 172 Joined: 4-March 10 From: citrus heights, California Member No.: 13,241	he's in the 55gallon but selling off fish in my 125 so he'll be getting the tank soon

adrianeandconnor... adrianeandconnorwest View Member Profile	Mar 10 2010, 12:30 PM Post #17
MiniKok Group: Full Member Posts: 172 Joined: 4-March 10 From: citrus heights, California Member No.: 13,241	Ok here they are are hope this helps Attached image(s)

adrianeandconnor... adrianeandconnorwest View Member Profile	Mar 10 2010, 12:36 PM Post #18
MiniKok Group: Full Member Posts: 172 Joined: 4-March 10 From: citrus heights, California Member No.: 13,241	3 more pics to check out Attached image(s)

niel_0515 View Member Profile	Mar 10 2010, 08:15 PM Post #19
GiantKok Group: Senior Member Posts: 1,629 Joined: 7-May 07 From: Pulilan, Bulacan PH Member No.: 7,312	Although it's too early to say what strain that little guy is, I think he definitely has potential! Pearling is superb, flowerline is neat abd KOK is starting to pop out! Pump him up and keep us updated! -------------------- Campaign Against The Brutal Treatment Of Aquarium Fish Under The Guise Of Cosmetic Reconstruction! Please add me up! Yahoo! Messenger: daniel_dumapit Friendster/Facebook: daniel_dumapti@yahoo.com Please click on the egg. Thank you!

killersinz View Member Profile	Mar 11 2010, 06:49 AM Post #20
NiceKok Group: Full Member Posts: 463 Joined: 6-March 09 From: singapore Member No.: 12,344	QUOTE (adrianeandconnorwest @ Mar 10 2010, 12:36 PM) 3 more pics to check out From the look of the face yes it have some kamfa look but i cant tell u wats the breed i will say its mixed of zz kamfa n maybe kml this just my guess. -------------------- [imghttp] ://img35.imageshack.us/img35/9022/signaturegri.jpg[/img]

adrianeandconnor... adrianeandconnorwest View Member Profile	Mar 11 2010, 08:43 AM Post #21
MiniKok Group: Full Member Posts: 172 Joined: 4-March 10 From: citrus heights, California Member No.: 13,241	you guys are awesome thanks so much for all the help i really appreciate it and i'm a proud mamma to this little guy already he's got great personality and in just 4 days he already knows who i am follows my finger and is begging for food yay all good signs!

adrianeandconnor... adrianeandconnorwest View Member Profile	Mar 11 2010, 08:46 AM Post #22
MiniKok Group: Full Member Posts: 172 Joined: 4-March 10 From: citrus heights, California Member No.: 13,241	I have two electric blue jacks dempsey fry way smaller than him in the tank everything im ready says NO NO NO so guess im gunna have to find those babys a new home....boo cuz they're really cool too!

adrianeandconnor... adrianeandconnorwest View Member Profile	Mar 19 2010, 02:06 PM Post #23
MiniKok Group: Full Member Posts: 172 Joined: 4-March 10 From: citrus heights, California Member No.: 13,241	head growth in just a few days

niel_0515 View Member Profile	Mar 19 2010, 04:35 PM Post #24
GiantKok Group: Senior Member Posts: 1,629 Joined: 7-May 07 From: Pulilan, Bulacan PH Member No.: 7,312	Nice update pic! Now I'm leaning towards ZZ. I may be wrong, though... -------------------- Campaign Against The Brutal Treatment Of Aquarium Fish Under The Guise Of Cosmetic Reconstruction! Please add me up! Yahoo! Messenger: daniel_dumapit Friendster/Facebook: daniel_dumapti@yahoo.com Please click on the egg. Thank you!

adrianeandconnor... adrianeandconnorwest View Member Profile	Mar 19 2010, 07:40 PM Post #25
MiniKok Group: Full Member Posts: 172 Joined: 4-March 10 From: citrus heights, California Member No.: 13,241	either way we love him already...lol. Had to take the jacks out fh bit off its entire back tale and a fin....oooh he's agressive, tried to get my finger yesterday when i was cleaning the tank and attacked the siphon.

AnthonyV View Member Profile	Mar 22 2010, 12:26 AM Post #26
Semper Fi Group: Forum Moderators Posts: 6,456 Joined: 6-May 08 From: LOS ANGELES Member No.: 10,715	Definitely turning out real nice under your care. Yeah, FH tend to be super aggressive towards other fish and an occasional finger or two. --------------------

rocky123 View Member Profile	Mar 22 2010, 01:38 AM Post #27
Kokless Group: New Member Posts: 23 Joined: 14-March 10 Member No.: 13,259	its zz dosnt seem to b pure kk.good pearls an abt the kok,ull see as it grows cause its young too say anything.but if nicely talking abt potential then fh of 2.5,3" ave a small kok an tht comes in the blood.so feed gud.an keep posting.and it dosnt matter wat type it is when u like ur pet....best of luck. -------------------- ENGG(e&ce),computer security,internet security,master in security tools,certified ethical hacker,penetration and vulnerability tester,tcp/ip packet analysis,sap abap,diploma in web designing,presently on security +.

adrianeandconnor... adrianeandconnorwest View Member Profile	Mar 22 2010, 08:35 AM Post #28
MiniKok Group: Full Member Posts: 172 Joined: 4-March 10 From: citrus heights, California Member No.: 13,241	I have been looking at some expensive plecos anyone know weather i can have one in with a fh?

djrice69 View Member Profile	Mar 22 2010, 09:58 AM Post #29
Rice King Group: Senior Moderator Posts: 7,415 Joined: 26-April 05 From: orange county Member No.: 2,081	I wouldn't put expensive fancy plecos with a flowerhorn maybe a royal pleco but they get big -------------------- Shipping service is now available for residents in socal www.Djrice.Net I sell custom dividers/suction cup for your flowerhorns need! BETTER YOURSELF, WITH KNOWLEDGE IN THE FISH AND AQUARIUM WORLD Click here

adrianeandconnor... adrianeandconnorwest View Member Profile	Mar 22 2010, 06:11 PM Post #30
MiniKok Group: Full Member Posts: 172 Joined: 4-March 10 From: citrus heights, California Member No.: 13,241	For those that didnt know my fh is bout 3.5'' now and he outgrew the electric blue jack dempseys! The fh attacked the jack and bit off his back fin and side fin! I removed the jack's from his tank the jack with missing fins was close to belly up in other tank so i put him back in with fh and decided to let nature run its course! For those that think fh can have tank mates please watch this video lol. By the time i got video camera my fh had already ripped the head off and most the body i did capture most the aftermath! youtube fh attack!

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