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LAWRENCE
u cant cure hernia ?
FJMUN
no ranting2.gif
HighFive
QUOTE (LAWRENCE @ Apr 5 2004, 07:56 PM)
u cant cure hernia ?

Fish can usually live a good life even though they have one. Unfortunately, the only way to remove it is surgically. And there is usually a very slim chance that they will make it OK unless one is constantly looking over them and their incision. You have to constantly do water changes throughout the week. We have observed a few Texas Cichlids at our facilities with them and they are currently 5 years old and breeding great. They are our best daddies around! thumbsup.gif I hope this can help answer some of your questions! thumbsup.gif
flowerhornFREAK44
kissass.gif THATS A LIE HERNIAS CAN BE DONE AWAY WITHIN A WEEK TO 2 MONTHS. THE PROBLEM IS SOLVEED BY THE BAD FOOD ITS EATING OR WATER QUALITY.BUT IT ALL CAN BE SOLVED.
LAWRENCE
sleep.gif i c thanks for the info
PHYCHO-HORN
OK
HighFive
QUOTE (LAWRENCE @ Apr 5 2004, 07:56 PM)
u cant cure hernia ?

OK, let me clarify, usually the problem is called a Tumour.
Tumours- Any fish can become affected. Tumours can be benign (not cancerous) or cancerous. Tumours are usually incurable. Abnormal growth of the thyroid gland, which sometimes occurs, is occasionally curable.
Symptoms- Internal tumours can be seen when they distend the body, otherwise they can not be detected. External tumours show as projecting lumps on affected fish!
Treatment- Well unfortunately without expert advice thyroid tumours cannot be identified.

If the tumor is benign, good care and overall great diet will cure this problem. Seeing that flowerhornFREAK44 is here just bashing people and he cannot seem to explain the complexities of the anatomies of aquaria in general, I am here trying to help you Lawrence. I really hope that the hernia (tumour) is in fact a benign tumour.

Now there are many possibilities of what you are seeing, one thing that we see in the lab is when we feed our fish live crustaceans. The following day, we observe them having a difficult time trying to pass feces. This causes what we call in the lab puckering where the internal walls of the anus protrude to the outside. We have observed from numerous tests that within a number of weeks and antibiotics they will return to normal. If the fish is juvenile, they can normally outgrow these circumstances.
To speed up the process, 30% water changes during the week, along with some epsom salt, and gradually increasing the temperature to between 88-90 degrees. One procedure that we perform if to take a very small piece of epsom salt and insert it into the fishs' mouth. It may be a little discomforting to them at first but make sure that it is swallowed. This procedure helps them retain a little extra water causing them to swell a little and thus by making the hernia to pull itself back into its body. Don't ask me how that happens but it just happens.

I hope that I could be of assistance!
day
good info, a hernia is a complex thing in humans,that deals with surgery, i dont think the teknology is that skilled yet to cure that in a fish, thinking.gif
TheManaguenseManiac317
QUOTE (marcmunoz @ Apr 7 2004, 09:21 PM)
QUOTE (LAWRENCE @ Apr 5 2004, 07:56 PM)
u cant cure hernia ?

OK, let me clarify, usually the problem is called a Tumour.
Tumours- Any fish can become affected. Tumours can be benign (not cancerous) or cancerous. Tumours are usually incurable. Abnormal growth of the thyroid gland, which sometimes occurs, is occasionally curable.
Symptoms- Internal tumours can be seen when they distend the body, otherwise they can not be detected. External tumours show as projecting lumps on affected fish!
Treatment- Well unfortunately without expert advice thyroid tumours cannot be identified.

If the tumor is benign, good care and overall great diet will cure this problem. Seeing that flowerhornFREAK44 is here just bashing people and he cannot seem to explain the complexities of the anatomies of aquaria in general, I am here trying to help you Lawrence. I really hope that the hernia (tumour) is in fact a benign tumour.

Now there are many possibilities of what you are seeing, one thing that we see in the lab is when we feed our fish live crustaceans. The following day, we observe them having a difficult time trying to pass feces. This causes what we call in the lab puckering where the internal walls of the anus protrude to the outside. We have observed from numerous tests that within a number of weeks and antibiotics they will return to normal. If the fish is juvenile, they can normally outgrow these circumstances.
To speed up the process, 30% water changes during the week, along with some epsom salt, and gradually increasing the temperature to between 88-90 degrees. One procedure that we perform if to take a very small piece of epsom salt and insert it into the fishs' mouth. It may be a little discomforting to them at first but make sure that it is swallowed. This procedure helps them retain a little extra water causing them to swell a little and thus by making the hernia to pull itself back into its body. Don't ask me how that happens but it just happens.

I hope that I could be of assistance!
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Wow my fish my SRt male has been battling with this hernia and it never seems to go away. I have treated the fish and thenthe thing retracks, then sometimes when it gets angry it come out again. Im am definately going to try this epson salt technique. At first i thought i was a female haha!!
fish nut
For thryoid tumour, try salt because it has Iodine. USUALLY, thyroid are caused by lack of Iodine in the diet. I guess this is where the epsom salt comes in 4.gif

I agrees with fhfreak. I noticed that hernia arise from poor water quality. Keep the water clean and AGAIN, give the fish some soft diet, blood worms, frozen shrimps w/o the shell, flakes, for a couple of week to lessen the strain on the intestine till its heal.

I don't think that a hernia is a tumour. Because a tumour does not go away on its own. Its either remove physically, cutting, cryosurgery, or lazer, or by necrosis, lack of nutrients to the tumour which in turns cause cell death to the tumor.

My fish had a hernia because my water in the 20 gallon was dirty due to the lack of adequate filtration. But when I place him in another tank with better filtration, I have not noticed it since.
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