hi. im new . ive been trying to find some info and coulndt find any.
he's 1 yr old . 11 inches, in a 180 gal tank.
can some one please tell me what is on his tail?
ive knocked off chunks of it before. its like a white powerdery substance.
it just grows back.
http://i627.photobucket.com/albums/tt357/s...pg?t=1239820387
http://i627.photobucket.com/albums/tt357/s...pg?t=1239820493
http://i627.photobucket.com/albums/tt357/s...pg?t=1239820548
2nd question.
i ve been wanting to feed him something different
right now he eats hikari bio gold cichlid.
would you recommend ching mix or sumo red?
or something else.?
thanks in advance !
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the pics have been moved to a difft folder it seems. All 3 foods have their own merits. I have used a combination of the 3 in my feeding regimen in the past. I have since stopped using GS as have a crap load of food to finish before I make any more food purchases. Also be aware that there are fake GS out there so only by from trusted sellers.
how do i post a pic. it wont let me.
still dont work.
WOW!!! It looks like a tumor. I have no idea 
How is he acting right now? When did this start? Have you checked your water parameters? Whats your temp at?
How is he acting right now? When did this start? Have you checked your water parameters? Whats your temp at?
QUOTE (Bllib @ Apr 15 2009, 04:44 PM) 
WOW!!! It looks like a tumor. I have no idea
How is he acting right now? When did this start? Have you checked your water parameters? Whats your temp at?
How is he acting right now? When did this start? Have you checked your water parameters? Whats your temp at?
hes been fine . theres nothing wrong with him. .
i just dont know what it is.. some times little chunks fall off. its just like a powdery white substance. then it grtows back
tested the water monthly.. all good.
gets weekly water changes of 75%
fed well. 3-4 times daily
when he was bout 4 months old at 8 inches that whtie thing was no bigger than a pearl.
it just kept getting bigger and bigger. as he got bigger and bigger.
Wow new to me.I have never in 30 yrs of raising fish ran into this before
QUOTE (sp33dy25 @ Apr 15 2009, 04:50 PM)
QUOTE (Bllib @ Apr 15 2009, 04:44 PM)
WOW!!! It looks like a tumor. I have no idea
How is he acting right now? When did this start? Have you checked your water parameters? Whats your temp at?
How is he acting right now? When did this start? Have you checked your water parameters? Whats your temp at?
hes been fine . theres nothing wrong with him. .
i just dont know what it is.. some times little chunks fall off. its just like a powdery white substance. then it grtows back
tested the water monthly.. all good.
gets weekly water changes of 75%
fed well. 3-4 times daily
when he was bout 4 months old at 8 inches that whtie thing was no bigger than a pearl.
it just kept getting bigger and bigger. as he got bigger and bigger.
Never seen anything like that before. I am curious to know what that is too. 75% weekly water change? Are you using any med in the water to treat him at all?
QUOTE (Etek @ Apr 15 2009, 03:53 PM)
the pics have been moved to a difft folder it seems. All 3 foods have their own merits. I have used a combination of the 3 in my feeding regimen in the past. I have since stopped using GS as have a crap load of food to finish before I make any more food purchases. Also be aware that there are fake GS out there so only by from trusted sellers.
Where have you seen fake GS around? Can you be more specific as who has bought fake product where?
wierd, never seen anything like this before
neva seen that b4 man.may b its some skin disorder thats ur fish may b having since birth.but fish looks gud.
thanks everybody. hope fully someday someone will know what that is ...
and no i have not treated him with anything because i wouldnt know where to start.
i dont want to start dosing him with a bunch of different meds.
when i get a better camera i will try to post clearer pix.
the camera i have keep focusing on the glass.. lol.
and no i have not treated him with anything because i wouldnt know where to start.
i dont want to start dosing him with a bunch of different meds.
when i get a better camera i will try to post clearer pix.
the camera i have keep focusing on the glass.. lol.
Can you scrape it off??? If stuff comes off maybe you can just scrape it off. Maybe some kind of fungus??
QUOTE (Bllib @ Apr 16 2009, 01:44 PM)
Can you scrape it off??? If stuff comes off maybe you can just scrape it off. Maybe some kind of fungus??
not actually scraped off
but i have knocked big chunks off when im cleaning the tank.
when im scrubbing some algae off the tank with teh algae scraper
he comes and attacks me atthat time i just play with him and try to knock off as much as i can... it just grows back
Check this out!! This may be what you have......or at least what the fish has 
Lymphocystis
Symptoms: Nodular white swellings (cauliflower) on fins or body.
Lymphocystis is a virus and, being a virus, affects the cells of the fish. It usually manifests itself as abnormally large white lumps (cauliflower) on the fins or other parts of the body. It can be infectious, but is usually not fatal. Unfortunately, there is no cure. Fortunately, this is a rare disease.
There are two suggested treatments. One treatment is to remove and destroy the infected fish as soon as possible. The other treatment is to simply separate the infected fish for several months and hope for remission, which usually does occur.
Lymphocystis
Symptoms: Nodular white swellings (cauliflower) on fins or body.
Lymphocystis is a virus and, being a virus, affects the cells of the fish. It usually manifests itself as abnormally large white lumps (cauliflower) on the fins or other parts of the body. It can be infectious, but is usually not fatal. Unfortunately, there is no cure. Fortunately, this is a rare disease.
There are two suggested treatments. One treatment is to remove and destroy the infected fish as soon as possible. The other treatment is to simply separate the infected fish for several months and hope for remission, which usually does occur.
QUOTE (Bllib @ Apr 16 2009, 02:24 PM)
Check this out!! This may be what you have......or at least what the fish has
Lymphocystis
Symptoms: Nodular white swellings (cauliflower) on fins or body.
Lymphocystis is a virus and, being a virus, affects the cells of the fish. It usually manifests itself as abnormally large white lumps (cauliflower) on the fins or other parts of the body. It can be infectious, but is usually not fatal. Unfortunately, there is no cure. Fortunately, this is a rare disease.
There are two suggested treatments. One treatment is to remove and destroy the infected fish as soon as possible. The other treatment is to simply separate the infected fish for several months and hope for remission, which usually does occur.
Lymphocystis
Symptoms: Nodular white swellings (cauliflower) on fins or body.
Lymphocystis is a virus and, being a virus, affects the cells of the fish. It usually manifests itself as abnormally large white lumps (cauliflower) on the fins or other parts of the body. It can be infectious, but is usually not fatal. Unfortunately, there is no cure. Fortunately, this is a rare disease.
There are two suggested treatments. One treatment is to remove and destroy the infected fish as soon as possible. The other treatment is to simply separate the infected fish for several months and hope for remission, which usually does occur.
awesome ! thanks bllib.
RARE virus and NON FATAL = more $$ lol j/k
imagine if it had got on his head...cauliflower head..
lol
thanks again.
i just finished readin some articles.. sounds like it.. couldnt finda similar pix.
however i had a juvenile Original GM in the tank for 3-4 months and the juvy did not contract this highly infectious disease..
there was a guy in the article handling a fish that was induced with Lymphocystis, he then developed warts on his hands...
however i had a juvenile Original GM in the tank for 3-4 months and the juvy did not contract this highly infectious disease..
there was a guy in the article handling a fish that was induced with Lymphocystis, he then developed warts on his hands...
oh i probably should mention its been on the fish for the past 6 + months
Well it sounds a lot like a cancer. It may be there for a while until it goes it goes into remission. Your other fish may have but it may not be showing the symptoms yet.
i really really hope this doesnt infect humans...
Hi SupremeKok, hope your FH is doing well .
FOLKS Pls find the details Lymphocystis is the cause (Virus)
Home made Remedy
Description
Lymphocystis is an infectious viral disease of freshwater and saltwater fishes that causes cell enlargement (many more times than normal cell size), also called hypertrophy, usually on the skin and fins. The enlarged cell nodules may each reach 0.3 mm to greater than 2.0 mm in diameter, each becoming a virus factory. Lymphocystis is the most common viral infection of aquarium fish, and has been reported in over 125 species of freshwater and marine fishes.
The disease usually runs its course in 4 or more weeks (depending on species involved, water temperature, and other variables) and then the enlarged cells rupture or slough off and release the viral particles into the water. While infected, the fish may become slowed or weakened, or more visible, and thus be more prone to predation or attack. If there are mouth lesions, the fish may have difficulty in feeding or may not be able to feed. The low mortality rate some attribute to lymphocystis is mostly due to secondary bacterial or fungal infections. I have worked with many thousands of fishes of various freshwater and salt water species and do not recall a single death being directly due to a lymphocystis infection.
After lymphocystis lesions are lost, the host tissue heals up. Adhesions and scarring can occur during healing. If the gills are affected, the fish can have difficulty breathing, especially if gill surface areas are destroyed (no longer present), or adhesions or scarring occur and gill surfaces are thus reduced in surface area or functional quality for oxygen uptake.
The viral particles in the water can go on to infect another fish of the same or closely related species. I suspect the virus can also become dormant and remain viable in sediments for years. The virus may be stored for years (for future research) by either freezing or freeze-drying the separated viral particles, infected tissues, or infected whole fish.
The disease poses no known health hazard to humans. To decrease spreading this disease to other fishes, infected fish should be buried or burned, and not thrown back into the water.
The viral agent of lymphocystis disease is an iridovirus (of the family Iridoviridae) called Lymphocystivirus (genus name). Iridoviruses range from 120-300 nm (nanometer = one billionth of a meter) in diameter. Iridoviruses have an icosohedral or 20-sided shape, and a DNA core.
I have worked on the disease in silver perch (Bairdiella chrysura), white-tailed damselfish (Dascyllus aruanus), black-tailed humbug (Dascyllus melanurus), copper banded angelfish (Chelmon rostratus), Koran angelfish (Pomacanthus semicirculatus), Moorish idol (Zanclus canescens), foureye butterflyfish (Chaetodon capistratus), orbiculate bat fish (Platax orbicularis), queen angelfish (Holacanthus ciliaris), and warmouth or goggle-eye (Lepomis gulosus).
FOLKS Pls find the details Lymphocystis is the cause (Virus)
Home made Remedy
Description
Lymphocystis is an infectious viral disease of freshwater and saltwater fishes that causes cell enlargement (many more times than normal cell size), also called hypertrophy, usually on the skin and fins. The enlarged cell nodules may each reach 0.3 mm to greater than 2.0 mm in diameter, each becoming a virus factory. Lymphocystis is the most common viral infection of aquarium fish, and has been reported in over 125 species of freshwater and marine fishes.
The disease usually runs its course in 4 or more weeks (depending on species involved, water temperature, and other variables) and then the enlarged cells rupture or slough off and release the viral particles into the water. While infected, the fish may become slowed or weakened, or more visible, and thus be more prone to predation or attack. If there are mouth lesions, the fish may have difficulty in feeding or may not be able to feed. The low mortality rate some attribute to lymphocystis is mostly due to secondary bacterial or fungal infections. I have worked with many thousands of fishes of various freshwater and salt water species and do not recall a single death being directly due to a lymphocystis infection.
After lymphocystis lesions are lost, the host tissue heals up. Adhesions and scarring can occur during healing. If the gills are affected, the fish can have difficulty breathing, especially if gill surface areas are destroyed (no longer present), or adhesions or scarring occur and gill surfaces are thus reduced in surface area or functional quality for oxygen uptake.
The viral particles in the water can go on to infect another fish of the same or closely related species. I suspect the virus can also become dormant and remain viable in sediments for years. The virus may be stored for years (for future research) by either freezing or freeze-drying the separated viral particles, infected tissues, or infected whole fish.
The disease poses no known health hazard to humans. To decrease spreading this disease to other fishes, infected fish should be buried or burned, and not thrown back into the water.
The viral agent of lymphocystis disease is an iridovirus (of the family Iridoviridae) called Lymphocystivirus (genus name). Iridoviruses range from 120-300 nm (nanometer = one billionth of a meter) in diameter. Iridoviruses have an icosohedral or 20-sided shape, and a DNA core.
I have worked on the disease in silver perch (Bairdiella chrysura), white-tailed damselfish (Dascyllus aruanus), black-tailed humbug (Dascyllus melanurus), copper banded angelfish (Chelmon rostratus), Koran angelfish (Pomacanthus semicirculatus), Moorish idol (Zanclus canescens), foureye butterflyfish (Chaetodon capistratus), orbiculate bat fish (Platax orbicularis), queen angelfish (Holacanthus ciliaris), and warmouth or goggle-eye (Lepomis gulosus).
That's crazy. I've never seen that before.
QUOTE (sp33dy25 @ Apr 16 2009, 02:42 PM)
i really really hope this doesnt infect humans...
wow its possible so pls take more precaution
QUOTE (sp33dy25 @ Apr 16 2009, 02:04 PM)
oh i probably should mention its been on the fish for the past 6 + months
heres my friends fiosh who just came down with same thing...
super nasty! i feel real bad for his fish. looks like alien fish.
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